Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to episode 327 of the TDR now podcast. We're the first English speaking podcast about Asian theme parks like Tokyo Disneyland and Hong Kong Disneyland, all kinds of other places. You can find us at TDR. Explore everywhere on the website TDRxplorer.com YouTube on all kinds of places. Wherever you search. If you type that in, you'll find something interesting and fun. I'm one of your hosts, Trish. I work with tourism in the city of Urayasu and part of a team for the Instagram account discovery. So please check it out if you're visiting the city and you want to know what's happening and all kinds of fun stuff to check out. And you can find me at my personal account, reamsweetslove. I like to take photos and eat lots of sweets. Although I probably shouldn't. I should probably get to the gym. But that's.
Chris is the other co host and he's wonderful. Hello, Chris.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Hi. Oh my gosh. You have been through so much.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: It's been, it's been a, it's been a time, it's.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. Okay, so you have to tell them what happened.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Okay, well, first of all, my name is Chris, AKA tdr. Explorer. Tdr, Explorer man, whatever you want to call me.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Wait, do they call you tdr? Explorer Man. It's like a superhero some people have.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: So it's kind of interesting when people meet me.
A lot of people use my, my first name, which it's my preference. Like call me Chris.
Some people refer to me as tdr, which is like okay, you are theme park. Sure. Yeah.
And then some. But that's usually like English speaking people or like non Japanese speakers. I guess that's like English speakers, Spanish speakers, you know, whoever. But then I find that Japanese people that I meet call me Explora San, which is very interesting.
It's just interesting what different people, how they want to call you, which I find very fascinating.
I just find it. It's very common for Japanese people to refer to me as Explorer San.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: And for those that don't know, San is like the honorific for basically calling like someone like Mr. Or Mrs. Miss. That's just how you like call people here refer to people.
It's usually like they're I guess like for foreigners. For non Japanese it's. It's usually our first name then followed by San.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Like it's supposed to be a family name though.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Like Japanese people it's like. No, you say their family name yeah, so like, for me it'd be like Nelge San, but. Yeah, but people call me Chris San.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Which is interesting. I don't know why that happens, but it does.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of interesting. Like you should be using my family name.
Like kids, I don't care. But like, adults, like, refer to me as my family name, please.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Yeah, refer to the family name. Thank you.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: Anyway, we're, we're not talking about family names today.
I am the one that is, I guess, getting hit by cars. Fun times.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: I'm not gonna, I'm like, I'm not gonna go into details. We.
Well, I will in our bonus episode. So I'll talk about that in our bonus episode, but for this, just very briefly. Walking home, I looked both ways. Crossing the street. The driver was not looking and took their corner rather quickly. And thankfully I wasn't hit head on. I was more clipped. But still it hurt. Nothing was broken, but I did have to go to the hospital and I got, you know, checked out very thoroughly and yeah, I'm fine. I'm good.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: We're glad you're, you're okay.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Me too. Thank you. Yeah, I'm very happy. I, obviously it could have been a lot worse, so I'm grateful that nothing was broken. Like, I got nothing broken. Thankfully, I was at home for like over a week. I really couldn't go anywhere. It was just, it was hard to walk. So I was on crutches for a bit and then graduated to a cane, which I still kind of have. And it's more just out of abundance of caution because they're still like, going up. Like, I'm not going up steps. Like, that's just too much.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: But canes are pretty cool. It's a nice fashion accessory.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: I can beat the next car.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: There you go.
Back off.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. So I kind of, I thought I would take this opportunity to see how accessibility works at the parks because I've been asked many times to do it, but I never wanted to do it prior to all this because, you know, I've been able bodied. Right. I didn't want to, I didn't want to use a wheelchair for the sake of using one. Right. Like, I feel that's very disingenuous. So I did not want to do that. So when this happened, I kind of thought, well, as long as I get it cleared with the doctors and I'm feeling up for it, I probably should try and do this because I know people will find it Useful.
So long story short, I did a day at Hong Kong Disneyland in a wheelchair. You're probably thinking, what, Chris? You went to Hong Kong Disneyland? Yes, I know I went to Hong Kong Disneyland.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Listen, you could do anything about it because it was already planned.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Yeah, Like, I had.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Tickets were bought.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: We had. So my, my. My entire schedule just kind of like was thrown out the window essentially when I got hit by the car. So I had to, like, you know, turn down some sponsorships and stuff, unfortunately, and like, reconfigure stuff.
But there were certain things that, like, I. I have to, like, I'm either doing it or I'm not. And like Hong Kong, we already had this, like, planned and booked a month ago. So, like, the fights were, were paid for, the hotel was paid for. Like, all this money was already invested. And I wasn't going to. I wasn't able to get it back. So I went to the doctor three times and just like, got them to check me over. And like, I got the okay from the doctor. He said, no, you're like, you're fine to fly. Nothing's broken. You know, they're still bruising and, you know, things like that, but you're good to go. And he said, as long as you're feeling up for it. So. And I felt up for it because.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: You have been cooped up for like a week.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: That also, I was going a little stir crazy. Like, I'm not a homebody.
I go out, like, I'm out shooting videos or I'm just like, outgoing, meeting friends and all this stuff. So just like, suddenly being stuck at home, it's just like, driving me insane.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: So long story short, got to go to Hong Kong because we went into Christmas and stuff there and did a day in. In a wheelchair. And also I did do a day in Tokyo Disney. The wheelchair as well, might do a separate episode on it. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how this episode goes. If it goes long or not. We'll see.
But. Yeah. So Hong Kong. Hong Kong, Disneyland, in a wheelchair.
I guess I just want make a long story short. It was a good experience.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: It's really nice.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: It was. It was a nice experience. It. It was for me. This is my first time using a wheelchair. Like, I've never had to use one before.
I've never actually, Knock on wood. I've never broken anything before.
I've never been injured in a way where I wasn't able to walk. Right.
So that for me was like, kind of an adjustment. A Little bit as well.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Like the only time I've had to use one, it was actually to go to Disney for like, I think I.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Remember this a few years, like for.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: A very short time because I had been hospitalized. I was hospitalized for like, I think about three weeks with pneumonia. Like I almost died.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: And I remember you telling me this.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: My son, they don't do this anymore, but his kindergarten was singing. They had like a little show on the stage that they used to have where the, what is it called? The Woodchuck something.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: Oh, now the restaurant. There was a stage there, right?
[00:08:51] Speaker A: There was. Yeah. And they were performing on the stage and I really wanted to see and I begged the doctor, can I please, please go? And they like, you can go, but you have to come back. And I'm like, okay. So I have my little, I, my little IV attached and everything. And like we, I got off and got on the taxi and then got back on and then I went, I saw the show and then I went straight back to the hospital.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: Oh, good.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: And I was like dying. I was like, I saw him, I saw him. You know.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's very important, right? Those things are important.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah. So like Hong Kong Disneyland was very accommodating.
So we were staying at the Hollywood Hotel and Hong Kong Disneyland. So if you, if you need alternate arrangements, because for Hong Kong Disneyland, they have buses that take you to and from the, the park.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: And sometimes the buses are like city buses with like, you know, one, like one step to go in. But then sometimes some of them are kind of like tour buses with, you know, the really steep, steep stairs.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: So and you don't know which one you're going to be getting because they just kind of run them continuously throughout the day.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: So if you need like, maybe like you're completely wheelchair bound and you can't get like get out of the wheelchair. For me, I was able to get out of the wheelchair. So we did a combination of taking the buses, but also a couple of times we asked the concierge if they could arrange transportation for us and they're able to do that. They got like a, like a little private shuttle that will drive you to the park. Now the only issue here, and this is like, this is no one's fault per se, is you just have to be aware that the entrance and where the drop off point is, they're quite far from each other.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: So if you don't have a wheelchair yet, you kind of have to walk pretty far to get into the park. Like it's not close.
I'm not sure about wheelchair transportation. I didn't do that because I was able to walk like distances before needing, needing a chair. So I'm not too sure how that work would work exactly. If they have like a special shuttle that a wheelchair can go into, I'm not sure that's something someone else would have to check, unfortunately.
But yeah, so I think that's probably the biggest thing to know is there's just a long walk from the bus area, drop off area to the actual front of the park. Because if you want to get a wheelchair, the wheelchair is in the park.
You have to get it inside the park at the fire station. And the wheelchair costs, it's 160Hong Kong dollars, which is, you know what? I didn't write this down. I didn't know what that is. I'm not very good with Hong Kong dollars. And converting into any kind of currency, 160 Hong Kong dollars is about 20 US but 100 Hong Kong dollars is a deposit and then the actual rental is 60 Hong Kong dollars. So you get the deposit back once you bring the chair back.
So yeah, you can rent the chair there. They also have strollers there as well. I don't think they have ECVs. I forgot to check.
They, they might, I, I, I've honestly never seen anyone Hong Kong Disneyland use one. So I don't know.
But yeah, definitely wheelchairs.
And basically the goal of the day was just to kind of, you know, do some rides, see some shows and just see how all that stuff works.
Probably the coolest thing was seeing some of the ride vehicles, the accessible ride vehicles.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. That's got to be so interesting.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: So a lot of the attractions are quite accessible. So if you go into the Hong Kong Disneyland app, you can filter attractions, like ones that you need to transfer from, like from the wheelchair into, like you have to be able to get yourself out and into the ride vehicle. And some of them you don't have to. You can remain in the chair because they have a special ride vehicle designed for wheelchairs.
So the two that I did that I didn't have to get out of was Mystic Manor and Ant Man.
So the mystic, the Mystic Manor one was actually pretty cool. Like I've never, I've never seen anybody load a wheelchair accessible vehicle on that attraction before.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: And well, I got first hand, firsthand, I guess, experience with that, so. Oh, I, I guess I should clarify. I didn't do DAs with any of this just because like I, I'M not eligible for it, so I didn't skip any lines or anything like it, like I waited in the regular queue like everybody else. Most of the queues we went in were wheelchair accessible, so we went through the normal queue. And like a wheelchair is able to fit through everything.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Which is really nice.
So it, it didn't reduce my wait time at, at all for anything, which is fine. Now Hong Kong design doesn't usually have high wait times unless you're there in like a Chinese New Year or like a massive holiday.
So, like the highest wait, I think was 10 minutes at a lot of things, so it's fine. So for Mystic Manor, once we got to like the, you know, loading area, they took me to a different part of the, like the loading area and that's where they had the wheelchair accessible vehicle ready and waiting. And then they had to like, load me into it, which was kind of cool to see. And got it all on video as well. So it's up on YouTube.
It takes a, it takes a little bit like a good five minutes. It probably took them to like strap everything, like they're strapping everything in, which I understand it's for safety. Right?
[00:15:22] Speaker A: Safety. Safety first pro tip.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: And I know people out there are probably laughing at me, but go to the toilet first, like halfway when they're putting everything together, I was thinking to myself, I'm like, oh, I should have went to the toilet.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Because then like, my mind started racing and I was like, well, wait, what if the ride breaks down and then I'm stuck and like, how they going to get me out? And then I really have to go to the bathroom and then what's. Oh, my God. I was like, don't think of that, Chris. Worry about it. If it happens, you're fine.
Thankfully, that did not happen.
But it, it was. Yeah, it was just interesting. So it, it fits one wheelchair, then one other person with you in it. And then we sat there and we're kind of at the exit, like the end of the attraction. So you saw other guests, like, exiting the attraction on, on the ride vehicle. And then however they figure it out, I'm not too sure they figure out where when my, like the vehicle we're in joins, joins in and then one of the other vehicles comes off and then kind of, we kind of like swap places and then you go through the attraction just like nor like normal. And then, then it kind of goes back into that loading area, then they unload you.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: So, you know, the wait was five minutes, but the Whole process probably took about, probably a good 10 minutes in total.
Which, you know, obviously that's understandable.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: I mean.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I, I wasn't expecting things to be quick. I knew things would be a little bit, you know, it would take some time.
The other one we did was Ant man and Ant man is for those that don't know Ant man is, well, Ant man, the Wasp Nano battle. It's, it's, it's Astro Blasters is what it is. Just updated version version of Astro Blasters. So it's that omni mover kind of vehicle.
So there's a wheelchair accessible one and they have to stop the ride and then they load you into one of the vehicle. Like load you into the, into the vehicle. And again, it's for you and one other person.
Now this one, it was a little bit of a tight fit for me in terms of height wise.
I, I'm I'm 5 foot 11, which is about 180 centimeters and my knees were right up against the front of the ride vehicle and it was like, it was kind of a tight fit and that was because of my height.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: So if you're someone that is taller, you might have some issues or you might not even be able to fit just due to your height.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Just kind of keep that in mind for Ant Man.
The other interesting thing for Ant man, which makes sense after I thought about it because you know, on, on like Astro Blasters, you can spin the vehicle around on your own accord to shoot the, the targets for this, the wheelchair accessible vehicle. You cannot, you don't control the spinning. It does it all on its own.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Which, which again, I guess that makes sense.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: Maybe it's like a safety.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah. You don't want, you, you don't want to like spinning yourself around with a whee chair in there. Yeah, it's probably not the best idea.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: Which was fine. Yeah, it was good. That one was, that one was a lot quicker than Mystic Manor to, to load.
But I guess for, for people that maybe have anxiety about this. So like Mystic Manor was, it was somewhat private.
Like the people coming off the attraction will go by you and like people look. Right.
But like people in the, on the other side of the queue don't see that.
But with Ant man, like there's no, like they can't take a vehicle off. Right. So it's all an Omni Mover. So they have to stop the entire ride for you. So that might cause anxiety for some people.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: And then what, what ends up happening is the line stops and then there's like a large, like the queue of people waiting to get on the ride. Then, you know, people are looking at you and everything. So that's just something to be aware of. For me, it didn't both me, but I know for some people that may be anxiety inducing for sure. So that's something to kind of be aware of as. As well as for getting around the park. Pretty easy. Hong Kong design is not a huge park.
I guess there's a couple places where they have cobblestone.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: And I've never thought about that before. Right. So there's a couple points like, especially in Frozen, because frozen has cobblestone. It's just like really bumpy as you're going through, which makes it a little hard to push as well.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: So there's a couple places like Cobblestone's great. It looks beautiful. Just kind of a little. Little rough when you're using a wheelchair.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Oh, 100%.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: For the most part. Hong Kong is pretty flat too. There's not a lot of.
Not too many inclines. I guess the only like inclines are.
Is going into frozen and also the frozen area. And also it's a small world because they have to go under the train tracks.
So any of the. Because like, I guess how Hong Kong is laid out, when they first built it, the train was on the. The outline of the park. But now that they've expanded the park, the lands are on the other side of the train tracks.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: Like, there's slopes that go under the train tracks now to like, get to like Mystic Point and Frozen and Toy Story Land. And it's a small world.
So that's probably something to be aware of. But for the most part, like most, like the stores and attraction queues. All of them. Well, I shouldn't say all of them a lot. Most of them are like wheelchair accessible.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: So, like, they will fit through them just, just fine.
Mickey and the wondrous book we did. There's a wheelchair section for that and for that. How that works is, you know, you just go to the front, you tell. Tell the cast members you want to.
Pardon me, go into the wheelchair section. And it looked like they didn't really have a limit of how many people in your party can come with you. Because there was a big family that had, I think, two people in wheelchairs with us as well. It looked like it was probably like maybe 10 people total.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: It was.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: It was a big group. Wow.
But you go in last. So all the. Right. Like all the. All the guests go in and they take their seats. And then once they're all seated, then we go in, like into the wheelchair section. And the wheelchair sections on the left side of the stage. And it's kind of like almost halfway down. So you're not close to the stage, but you're not all the way in the back either. You're kind of more in the middle. Ish.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: Okay, not bad.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: But you're on the left side. Now, the only, I guess, issue with that is the subtitles. So, like, the. The show, like some portions are subtitled. It's when the characters are talking.
Because the characters speak in Cantonese.
[00:22:51] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: And then on the left side, the left screen, there's subtitles in Mandarin, but the English subtitles are on the right, but left, so it's a little hard to see. Yeah, so that's something to kind of keep in mind as well.
But the dialogue is nothing like that difficult. It's just like, oh, Mickey, I don't know. Something magic.
Wow. I butchered that. I thought I would. I was trying to remember the show. Like, I actually don't remember.
Anyway, the subtitles are over there. So, yeah, that might be kind of an issue. But for the most part, I think things should be fine.
And then for momentous, the nighttime show, which is wonderful, by the way, you need to see that show. It's so good.
There's a wheelchair section that is to the right of the castle. And to get access to that, you go kind of. You come out from when you come out of Tomorrowland, turn right, and then you'll. You'll see a cast member, like a roped off area, and they'll take you to the wheelchair section. And the wheelchair section is kind of like to the right of the castle. So there's a special paid section that's like dead center in the middle. And the wheelchair section is kind of like off to the side from that.
And you have like a perfect view of the castle, like an un unobstructed view of it. There's no one standing in front of you or anything. So it's a. It's a nice little spot to watch the fireworks from.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: So it's really, really nice Overall though, like, my experience was really good.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Wonderful.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: But yeah, you know, there was a couple things to be mindful of. And of course, from, like, for me, like, I'm speaking from my own experience. I've never been in a wheelchair before. So, you know, this is very new to me. So forgive me if I got anything incorrect so, yeah, just overall it was, it was, it was really good.
I would say from a crowd perspective, a lot of people don't really pay attention. So that kind of like during, like busy parts, like, you know, like momentous ending and us trying to leave, it's just like everyone's trying to leave.
That was a little anxiety inducing for me because there's just people everywhere and I'm like, I'm lower and like, a lot of people aren't really paying attention. So I kind of had to like, be a little more aggressive than I normally am just so we didn't run people over because some people were just not paying attention and like, we were trying to be as mindful as possible. But you know, people just, sometimes they just don't see it. Right.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: And like, I don't want to run someone over either, you know.
So, yeah, there's, there's, there's points where I thought maybe we should have just hung back a little bit longer and let the crowds thin out, then have gone.
Definitely didn't, didn't, did not attempt the stores during closing because like even, you.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Know, walking through a store.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Nightmare. Yeah. Even when walking through a store.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: During closing, it's like, it's, it's not a good experience.
So probably don't do that in a wheelchair. It's probably not the, the funnest.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: It's probably not fun.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Yeah, no, do your shopping or like midday. It's probably better to do that.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:27] Speaker B: But yeah, overall it was, it was pretty simple.
People in Hong Kong speak English, so the language barrier is pretty much non existent if you're an English speaker.
Everyone is very accommodating in the restaurants as well. Like they would like, we went to the Golden Crocus Inn at. In Frozen, they didn't have like wheelchair specific tables, but they had no problem moving things around. They just said, like, they said to us, oh, like, pick a table and we'll just, you know, rearrange things for you.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: So that was nice. I got to like pick place to sit.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Oh, I did do. We also did Frozen, which does not have like a wheelchair accessible ride vehicle. You have to be able to get out and go down a step, like into the boat.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Oh, that's kind of a bummer.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: So we went through like, again, we went through the regular queue and I, I filmed that. And my apologies to Christophe and Anna. I was filming and I kind of filmed upwards. And like, you know, filming upwards at someone at an angle is never flattering for anybody. So I apologize. I did my best. I tried to move the camera up. I apologize.
But yeah, we went through the regular queue and then got into the. Gone to the boat. And then when the ride was over, we had to exit from the right side while everyone else exited from the left because there was no way for them to get the wheelchair on the other side because, you know, they have to go over a canal and then there's just a, you know, we just go through a different exit is all.
So it was pretty, like, hassle free. It was pretty simple, straightforward, which was nice. The only thing about the frozen ride, I guess maybe this is good for people that maybe have broken bones or something.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: That drop at the end is a little rough. Oh, like, it's. It's.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So something to be aware of.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: This ride is a clone of the one in Epcot, but it's better. Like it's more updated and everything. And you know, the drop at the end, this one is a lot steeper than the one in Epcot and it has like a look, a little like, bump at the end. So you drop and then it goes up and like, like kind of bumps. And I had my leg kind of out.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: And it, like, I forgot about that. And my leg kind of like went up under the. The seat in front of me. I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, that. Oh, that was spicy.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: You should kind of like maybe warn people about that if they see that you have an injury.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's something to be mindful of 100%, the frozen one, especially if you have, like, if it's an injury that could be aggravated.
But yeah, but like I said, overall it was a very good experience and hopefully the information is useful for people.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. Did you notice any big differences? Because you did both. Right. Tokyo Disneyland and Hong Kong. Was there any really big differences between the two?
[00:29:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So I guess we might as well talk about Tokyo Disneyland. Why don't we just do it all in one. One episode?
Might as well, right?
[00:29:59] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: Very different experiences, let's put it that way.
[00:30:06] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: I guess, like, not necessarily in a. Not. Not good, but not bad either, I guess because, you know, Hong Kong Disneyland is typically not very busy. When we were. When we were there, it wasn't very busy. Tokyo Disneyland, on the other hand, we did do a wheel there. Like I went there in a wheelchair on a Saturday because that's the only time I was able to go, just scheduling wise. And it's also a long weekend, so I was just Extra busy.
But I guess like how Tokyo Disneyland works, it works differently than Hong Kong Disneyland. So Hong Kong Disneyland, they just. You go and get the, the wheelchair and then you go to up to the attraction and you just wait through the regular queue. Cuz most of the queues are accommodating for a wheelchair.
Pretty simple.
Tokyo Disneyland for though it works differently. So there's two systems at Tokyo Disneyland.
There's the DAS system, which people are somewhat familiar, but it works differently at Tokyo Disneyland. And then there's a separate weight system. So I did not do the DAS because I'm not eligible for it. Like I would need a certificate and stuff. And you know, I, I don't have one because I have a. I have a temporary injury. So I didn't, I did not do the DAS system, but I did the separate weight service. But my understanding of how those two systems work, the DAS and the separate wait system at Tokyo Disney is the DAS is your party can wait with the person that needs the assistance.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Whereas the separate wait system, everyone is split.
Like if the person that is in like the wheelchair or is pregnant or elderly, if they can wait by themselves, they wait by themselves. And then the rest of the party goes through the queue and then the person that was waiting elsewhere meets up with them afterward, like joins them at a merge point is how it works.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Could you like, for example, like, let's say you had like four people. Could like two people go in the queue and then two people wait together? Would that be allowed or.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: I think it depends on the attraction. Like for me there was only two of us. It was me and one other person. So it was a little tough to kind of suss all that out because it was just like it was. Even for me, like it was quite overwhelming just being there.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: So it's like I wasn't like, I know people would have a million questions. I'm like, I'm just trying to figure out how this all works because I was, I was quite overwhelmed myself for sure. Just because it was, it was busy.
But I guess so for Tokyo Disneyland, like. Yeah, yeah, we just did. Tokyo Design didn't do disneysea in a wheelchair.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: So Disneyland's got to be hard because there's a lot of inclines.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: A lot of inclines. Yeah. That's the main reason why we didn't do it.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Disneyland's flat for the most part.
So you can rent a wheelchair and it's just 500 yen for regular. Like just a normal wheelchair. Like it's not battery powered or anything 500 yen, which is pretty reasonable. That's not bad at all.
[00:33:27] Speaker A: It's great. Yeah.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: And anybody can. Can get it. Like, they. They don't ask for, like, doctor's notes or anything like that. It's just if you need it, you can get it. Then they also have, like, a motorized wheelchair, which is a little bit more than they have, like, an ECV type of vehicle as well.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: Would be so scared to drive that with the crowds.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Yeah, the crowds are thick.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: Would be. I feel like that would be very challenging.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
So I ended up getting a regular wheelchair. I will say the Tokyo Disney wheelchairs are nicer than the Hong Kong ones.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: Mainly because for the Tokyo Disney ones, there was two sets of brakes. So there's the brakes on the wheels, but then the person. And pushing you also has like, you know, the handle brakes.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Whereas the Hong Kong ones did not. They just had the brakes on the wheels.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: And then the Tokyo Disneyland wheelchairs had like a. Like a special slot for either your umbrella or a cane. And I've been using a cane, so we're able to put the cane there. So it was out of the way. Whereas Hong Kong, the.
Well, at least I didn't see there was no place to put a cane or anything in the wheelchair.
[00:34:46] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:34:47] Speaker B: There. So, yeah, for the. Yeah. So Tokyo Disneyland. We got the wheelchair. Yeah. Being pushed around and everything.
It was just heavy crowds. So there was a little, again, little anxiety inducing for me because, you know, I'm. I'm 5 foot 11. I'm almost 6ft tall. So.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Usually above most people. So for me being, you know, at people's, like, waist height and not like, all I see around me is just people, it's just like, oh, okay, okay.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: Yeah, okay.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Let's just. You'll be fine. It's just. It was an adjustment for. For myself, for sure.
[00:35:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: So the first thing we did was we went. And so we did. We did Pooh's Honey Hunt and we did the separate weight system. And we knew, like, with this system, like, we weren't going to be saving any time. Like, you know, it's not. The system is not designed to help you save time.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Right, Right.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: I wanted to do Beating and the Beast, but beating the beast was like 170 minutes. And I thought, I am not waiting by myself for 170 minutes somewhere. Like, I know seem fun.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: Maybe I would have a good ebook or something.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Well, actually, I did bring my Kindle with me just in case.
But I thought, well, if I was.
[00:36:08] Speaker A: With friends, and your friend would be waiting in line. Yeah.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, if there's maybe a bigger group of us, then we maybe would have done that, but there was just two of us. It's like, well, we both. We have to split up.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: So anyway, we did. We went to Pooh's Honey Hunt, and we explained to them, like, at first they thought we were doing DAs, and we told them, no, we're not, because they're asking for, like, the certificate and stuff or, like, doctor's note and stuff. And we said, like, no, like, no, we don't have that.
So what the. So we explained them what we were doing, and then the cast member understood, like, okay, the separate weight service. So what they did was they took my ticket and scanned it and gave me a special, like, ticket that showed up in the app.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: For Pooh's Honey Hunt, that's a separate weight service. And then he explained. Okay, now your friend goes and waits in the regular queue in the. In the standby queue. And then me, I can go wait somewhere else. Like, there's. There's no, like, waiting area at Pooh's Honey Hunt. So they said, like, you can go stand over here or sit over here and just wait. And then once your friend gets to the merge point, like, where the priority line meets the regular standby queue.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah, Then.
[00:37:30] Speaker B: Then I can go through the priority queue and meet up with him there.
So effectively, they gave me a premiere access, I guess, like a special one to go through that priority line.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: Right.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: But I wasn't saving any time, so it was about an hour. So I just sat there for an hour outside, just sitting there, twiddling my thumbs.
And then he messaged me and said, okay, I'm at the merge point. You can come through. So I went. And this is the first time I actually had to push myself on a wheelchair. I've never done it before.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: Yeah, let me.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: I hit the tree, I hit the pole, I hit the. I hit the scanning machine where you scan your priority passes. I hit that guy just like, man, I am just like, oh, it was embarrassing.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: I don't understand why they don't. Like. The way they used to do it was. They would give you the. It was still the same weight as the line, but you would just come back after that time.
[00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: And that way you changed it together.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah, they changed it like, a two or three years ago, I think.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: That's so odd. I don't understand why they would do that.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, like, my understanding for the DAs, it's kind of the same. But I think they give. I. But I think they tell. I think everybody in the group, they just tell them to come back at a certain time. I think that, like, no, please don't quote me on that because I haven't done it.
[00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: I think for people with the DAs, I think the whole group, they give you a time to come back, I think.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Right.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Or they ask you to wait somewhere. I'm. I'm not 100 sure because I'm not eligible for it. So I didn't do it. So this is just. Yeah. The separate wait time service. So then, yeah, I got. I went through the line, I pushed myself through, and then I met up with. Met up with him, and then we went through the rest of the queue. And then for this one, there's no special, like, ride vehicle in a wheelchair. So, yeah, I have to be able to step out.
One thing to note, Tokyo Disneyland in particular, there's not.
I don't think there was any ride vehicles that were wheelchair.
Like, you could just roll on, I guess.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: I think the train.
[00:39:44] Speaker B: The train does. I know, I know the train. I didn't do the train, but I know it does. Yeah, the train. And I think there might be one other one, but maybe it's a Small world, but it's closed right now, so I wasn't able to do it.
But yeah, there's not a lot of, like a lot of the ride vehicles. You have to be able to get up.
[00:40:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: To get yourself.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: Oh, it's kind of a bummer, like, if you. If you can't, you know.
[00:40:07] Speaker B: Yeah. So just double, like, check the website, check the app. Like, you can filter everything.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: And then we actually watched two parades. We saw the Christmas Parade, which.
It's a cute parade, but I'm glad it's gone. It's going after this. Like, it's been around July that it's.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: Still been going on this whole time.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Well, like, this one's called, like the. The Christmas Story Time, Whatever, Grand Farewell or something. Because I know it's the last time, but I watch, I'm like, I don't know what's different about it?
[00:40:42] Speaker A: They can sell merch, Chris.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: It's the same thing. Wet merch. There was none.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: Oh, there was no. That's right.
You can get it in the summertime.
So weird.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: But we watched. So we watched that. And also Electrical Parade.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: Yeah, this is probably.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: This is probably the easiest part. Like, the attractions were a little stressful, but the shows were pretty easy.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: There's the wheelchair section I don't know if there's multiple ones. There might be, but. Or there might not be. I'm not sure. But the one like we did, the one that is in front of Maurice's house and Fantasyland, like, we're Fantasyland and Tomorrowland meet.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: It's right across from a DPA section.
So we got there. And we got there about an hour before the show or before the parade, because we talked to a cast member before, and they said the area gets pretty busy, like, with other wheelchairs and other people that need that space, so it's better to get there, like, you know, just like anything at Tokyo Disney. Get there early.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Early, yeah.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: So we got there about an hour early, which was fine. We just sat there and chilled.
And this. This area, too, is not just for wheelchairs. It's also for people who are pregnant.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, I did not know they had that. Okay.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was interesting because I saw there was four. Three or four people sitting on these stools, and I thought maybe they brought them.
And then I realized, I don't know, these tools are all the same, but these people are not together. Like, they're all separate groups.
[00:42:12] Speaker A: Right.
[00:42:13] Speaker B: Then I realized I'm like, oh, these are all, like, they're all pregnant and so they don't have to sit on the ground.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: So they can sit elevated, which is. That's actually really nice.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: That's really nice. Yeah.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Well, like, I'm someone who cannot get pregnant, so I wouldn't understand how that feels. But for people that can, I'm sure. I guess you can maybe speak to that more than me.
[00:42:38] Speaker A: No, it's. I think that's wonderful. Yeah.
[00:42:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So, like, that. That section is not just for people in wheelchairs. If you are pregnant and want to sit there, you can. And it's also for elderly as well. But I guess if you're elderly, you're probably going to be in a wheelchair anyway, or there's a good chance you will be.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: I never know. There's some pretty, like, I feel like more spry than I am, at least.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, it was just very interesting to see the chair, the little stools that they gave nice people, which I thought was really nice.
[00:43:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: So, yeah, it was a good spot. It was nice being able to see the show from there.
And also, good pro tip. What you can do is do mobile order for one of the restaurants nearby and then have someone in your party go pick it up.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: And then just bring it back to you.
So that's what we ended up doing both times, watching both the shows.
Then at to or Not Tokyo Descent, Pirates of the Caribbean, that worked a little bit differently because that's an older attraction as well.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: So we went there and I was curious, I'm like, how is this going to work? Because I've done like, I've gone through like, I've done this attraction many times and I've never thought about how that would work.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:09] Speaker B: With a wheelchair. So there's actually a separate. So there's three cues, like two, like two cues that you know that are used and then there's a wheelchair one as well. And when we got there, it was a 15 minute wait. And the cast members said, oh, we can just like, we can just take you to the attraction, like right up to the boats.
So we just kind of, we went right up to the front and we asked them like, how come we didn't do the separate weight service? Because that's how we thought it worked. And he said, oh, because just for this, I guess for this interaction in particular, because there was only two of us, we were able to go through it together. And again, because the wait time was rather low. It was only. It was 15 minutes.
[00:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: So. And he said if, if there was three or more of you, then they would have had to have separated.
So it sounds like each attraction is a little bit different.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: Sure. And they do have like videos on the website that show you exactly the loading process.
[00:45:11] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: Which is really great.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: So yeah, if you're curious about how different attractions work in that sense. Yeah, you can definitely go and watch that, which is nice.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: It's. Yeah, that's fantastic. Because I can see how that would cause like a lot of like nervousness if you've never done it before.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, the, the it, it's under the barrier free section of the website, so you can go and check that out. But yeah, overall though, it was, it was a little more stressful. I won't, I won't lie. But also I understand too. It was a weekend, so it's just busier in general.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: Oh, for sure.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: Compared to Hong Kong. So it's not like a completely fair comparison because, like, it's just different crowd levels. But Tokyo Disney is a little more just from like the way the systems work.
Hong Kong's is a lot better.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Disney. Tokyo Disney's is a little convoluted and confusing. Like, it's just, it's not explained very well. Like, even I had like, I was like, I, I wrote the book on this. And I still have problems, like, trying to wrap my head around this.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: And it's one of those things where, at least for me, I have to do it to understand it better.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: You know, just, like, just reading it, I'm like, okay, I kind of, like, I understand at, like, a high level, but, like, how does it actually work once you're doing it? Right. So, yeah, Tokyo Disney is a little difficult. A little more difficult.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: It's always like, I feel like with everything, it's a little difficult.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: I mean, that's just life in Japan in general. It's not just like, it's not unique to. To Tokyo Disney. It's just Japan in general. It's like, sure, it's a little more difficult than it needs to be, you know, So I guess it's. It's just good information for people to know.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: Oh, for sure.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Because based off of what people have been telling me, there's not a lot of information out there on this in terms of, like, people's experiences.
I. I think I saw.
[00:47:15] Speaker A: Gosh, I feel like just visiting, you know, Japan, like, in general, like, using a wheelchair would be very difficult, I feel.
[00:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, a lot of the train stations will have.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: No, they'll help you, for sure.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah, they'll definitely help you. And there will be elevators and stuff. But, like, some of the trains, like. Well, I guess, like my Hama, where Tokyo Disney is, that's pretty. It's. It's pretty straightforward. Like, they have two elevators. You can get up to the platform.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: And one of them is quite big.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: Yeah. But like, once again, to, like, Tokyo, some of the stations, like, there's one elevator and it's on the opposite end of where you are, and it turns into a nightmare. I think a good example.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: Find the elevator.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: I think a good example is if you transfer a lot on the Keio Line, you transfer to the Hibiya Line at Hachobori.
Yeah, I don't. I, I.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: You have to. There's. There's like, a little thing to take the stairs. I mean, you not take the stairs, but it'll lift you.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: It lifts. Yeah. Because there's no elevator.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: And the station people will help you, which just adds.
But, like, like, the communication, like, if you don't speak Japanese, I feel like the communication would be kind of challenging.
[00:48:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
That. That station is particularly bad. I see, like, a lot of tourists struggle with that, with their luggage.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Yes.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Because there's a lot of stairs and there's no elevators.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: There are so many stairs.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: Well, I shouldn't say there's no elevator. There is an elevator, but it's like, it takes you like to the street level and it's like really far away. So you have to really go around, add like a good. Another 10 minutes to something that would take two minutes. You know, it's, it's not great.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And something I wish, you know, especially with, you know, the aging population, I wish because I've seen like, and not even people that like had like, like that they had to use like a wheelchair or something, but like just like elderly. I do, you know, and there's some stations with quite a bit of stairs and I do see them like looking a little worried like where to go, what to do because it's difficult. It's difficult for them, you know, So I wish they would address that a bit more.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Yeah. A good website for people to look up is accessible. Japan.
That's someplace I always direct people to, to check out because they have an extensive. It's a, it's an extensive website with a ton of information about accessibility.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: In Japan. And they will explain things a lot better than I can because. Yeah, I'm just speaking from my first hand experience for the first time. So no, I like, I do not claim to be an expert in this whatsoever because I know I missed a lot. Right. And there's just things I can't speak to either.
[00:50:06] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: But yeah, I guess going back to the language thing, Hong Kong, like I said, pretty easy.
Pretty much everyone speaks English, right?
[00:50:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: With Tokyo Disney, you're probably not going to encounter a cast member that speaks English.
So good thing to do. Don't use Google Translate. It is terrible in my opinion. Use DeepL. I think that is a vastly better app for translation and it's a, it's a lot more accurate and it kind of picks up on nuances a bit better. It's not perfect, but it's miles better than Google Translate in my opinion. So use that to your advantage to communicate if you need to, with cast members.
So yeah, like for, for Tokyo Disney, there's nothing to register for. Like even if you do DAs, you don't register for DAs. You don't do that anymore.
What you do is just like the separate wait system. If you do want to do DAs, you have to have a, like a certificate. Well, if you live in Japan, you can get a certificate. If you don't live in Japan, it depends on your country. So if you can get a certificate of some sort, that's probably best.
But also like a Doctor's note is also good. But your mileage may vary. So try and.
Try and have documentation of some sort.
We did ask the cast members and they said it doesn't have to be in Japanese. It can be in like your. It can be in English if it needs to. Like if that's an option. It doesn't have to be in Japanese. So. But it's kind of left up to the discretion of the cast members. So your mileage may vary.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: So if you want to do the DAS thing for the attractions, you go to the cast members at the attractions. Like you have to do it individually, you have to do it, you have to do it each time at the attraction is what happens.
So budget, I guess, budget more time for these which I guess, you know, if you're doing DAs, you're. You're probably familiar with that anyway in terms of, you know, having to. A lot. A little more time for things.
Yeah, I feel like I'm repeating myself.
Is there, is there anything else?
[00:52:32] Speaker A: I feel like that was pretty thorough.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
A little stressful. I won't lie. It was very stressful also. Eye opening as well.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Definitely seeing things from a different perspective, which is good.
You know, I'm all about learning. You know, I'm all about seeing different perspectives and stuff. So I turned a unfortunate situation into something hopefully useful for other people.
[00:53:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: To learn for. To learn from.
Yeah. I will have a video on Tokyo Disneyland out probably in a couple of weeks.
But the, the Hong Kong Disneyland 1 is out, out already. So you can go on the YouTube channel and check it out if you like.
Is there anything else you can think of? Like any other questions?
[00:53:28] Speaker A: No, I think that's pretty much it. Right.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
For all the like barrier free stuff you can definitely check the Hong Kong Disneyland website and also the Tokyo Disney Resort website. They have a ton of information on there for different accessibility options as well. Like you know, things for site and you know, other other things. So you can go and check out those because we're obviously not going to be talking about everything because that would be a lot.
Yeah.
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And joining, as always, is the wonderful Patricia.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: And I'm just so glad you're okay myself, you know, like, oh my gosh, it was such scary news.
I'm glad you recovered. Well, you know, oh my gosh. But yeah, so scary.
And you guys, if you are listening and you've had experience in the various parks like Tokyo Disneyland or Hong Kong, Disneyland or Shanghai, let us know what your experiences were like and if there's anything we left out because we'd love to hear your feedback.
So thank you for listening and keep exploring.
[00:55:49] Speaker B: We'll see you in the next one.
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